Former Unwell Network Candidate Alleges Unsettling Interview with Matt Kaplan
Call her uncomfortable.
A social media user - who claims she was up for the director of events position at Unwell a year and a half ago - took to TikTok Wednesday to share her experience of what it was like interviewing for Alex Cooper and Matt Kaplan's production company.
Courtney Babbin (who goes by @cbabsssss on the social media platform) alleged that things took a turn for the worse during her final interview for the role, which she claims was a solo chat with Kaplan.
'I walk up to meet him and immediately it was weird. He looked me up and down, like my hair, my makeup, my outfit. I was in a blazer and pants and it was weird,' she alleged to her followers.
Once inside Kaplan's 'massive office,' Babbin claimed the couch was 'so uncomfortable' and low to the ground, with the businessman opting to sit in a chair that was 'leveled above' her.
'Power balance weird,' Babbin continued. 'And he wasn't making eye contact with me. He was looking straight past me, fixing his hair.'
She then compared their alleged conversation to a 'first date' line of questioning.
Kaplan - who is in charge of day-to-day operations at the company - allegedly inquired about Babbin's upbringing, her college experience and her parents, which she didn't take kindly.
'I pushed back on answering what my parents do for a living, like what relevancy does that have to this interview?' she recalled. 'That is super inappropriate. Why does that matter?'
Babbin claimed that led the producer to 's-t on' everyone at the company, except his wife, Cooper.
'He said, 'Everyone who works here is a stupid nepo baby. They are rich. They don't care. They have no work ethic. They are lazy,' she alleged of their conversation. 'He looked unimpressed with the whole situation. It was just nasty. It was awful.'
The TikTok user claimed the interaction left her 'so uncomfortable and so upset,' and wondered if Cooper was aware of how Kaplan acted at work.
'I walked up to meet him and immediately it was weird. He looked me up and down,' Babbin alleged of her interaction with the CEO (pictured here with Cooper in January).
Babbin also claimed Kaplan allegedly questioned her as if it was a 'first date.'
Kaplan (pictured above with Cooper in 2024) was previously accused of berating and threatening the careers of Unwell Network staff.
The TikTok user claimed she had never met Cooper (who mainly focuses on her podcast, 'Call Her Daddy'), so her only negative interaction was allegedly with Kaplan.
Babbin later took to her Instagram Stories, bashing Kaplan as 'the antithesis' of the brand Cooper built around 'empowering women,' 'creating safe workplaces' and 'calling out toxic behavior.'
'You can't preach one thing publicly and then turn around and say 'not my problem' privately,' she added.
Babbin's story comes just days after a new report accused Kaplan of berating and threatening the careers of Unwell Network staff.
Insiders close to the company alleged in Monday's bombshell Bloomberg report that there are ongoing issues between the CEO and the staff of Unwell.
Kaplan has allegedly 'earned a reputation for frequently yelling at staff members,' the report claimed.
In 2025, Cooper told Marie Claire that, as a CEO, her hope has always been to create a 'very positive and safe' environment for her staff and that her door is 'always open.'
